As you may know, Roshkatul has been perma-banned here. This caused some upset. I must say, I would be the first to defend the moderators/developers with their rulings. I have been a moderator in the Legion in-house League for 5 years and have had the most difficult time dealing with people there. So even if I disagree, or think they should have ruled differently, I will respect their difficult situation. However, I do think it is really wrong if you don’t give the other side a chance. After all, even moderators are humans, and with all their good intentions it’s always possible they made a mistake. They can misinterpret something, missed the whole context or judge something light too harshly. That is why, especially if you think fairness and honesty is really important, you should always give the specifics, so the moderator himself is also assured he did not make his ban on wrong terms. Tagging @Lisk for this, since he has repeatedly said he thinks those things are very important. Now I will proceed to show how the devs/mods don’t do that and with that willingly risk unfair (perma-)bans. I hope it’s just ignorance and that they will repair that after seeing this. Roshkatul got a perma-ban, which changed into a final warning(I believe that the final warning was unfair too, but let’s keep that outside of this). Around a week after the final warning he got perma-banned. This was the message on discord that announced his perma-ban. Spoiler: Statement on ban Deutscherhawk last thursday A long-term player, Roshkatul, has been permabanned for consistent targeted harassment of developers both in and out of the game with the intention of harming the game and for repeatedly attempting to circumvent bans. He has been given multiple warnings over the months, and since his final warning a few days ago, he has continued the same behavior. To be clear, this ban is not for criticizing the game, criticizing developers, or trolling. Roshkatul has demonstrated a pattern of aggressive, targeted behavior for many months. Individual incidents are minor on their own, but dozens of incidents across multiple platforms, including in-game, have made it impossible to ignore. This decision was met with unanimous approval by the mod team. We have only permabanned 6 players out of 92,000 accounts, so this decision was not taken lightly. After that, a lot of confusion started among players. The statement ‘continued the same behaviour’ did not resonate with anyone. So people started asking what that behaviour was. There was no more reply to this. By deduction, we thought there was no other reason possible than that Roshkatul joined a PTR game of Jules with his friend Bonny, who were together testing before Jules made his game. We thought they made a mistake thinking this was harassing, so we wanted to know if this was really the reason, or something else. No single response again. So after he was dealing with other things, I decided to ask him again if the reason was for joining PTR. Here you can see my question and his response. Spoiler: Question about ban reason Mick last friday 23:19 can i also ask why you banned roshkatul for joining ptr when i was there yesterday too? he did nothing wrong. thats really bullshit Jules last friday 23:23 The decision was met unanimously by the mod team + staff, and we gave our response. Sorry if it's not the exact answer you're looking for, but I'm going to focus on the patch now, since it's important we get it right So we decided to wait after the deal with the patch to ask in more calmness, when he had more time to explain. Here you see some text of people questioning it again and my request for an explanation. Spoiler: Request for explanation Jqob yesterday 19:49 I also don't understand how they don't have time to provide proof for Rosh's permaban, but take their time to ban him in the first place (on all platforms_ surely it doesnt take as much time nimea yesterday 19:52 No one understands Jqob yesterday 19:52 either provide proof or admit a mistake, thats the best for everyone Mick yesterday 20:08 yea agreed @jqob . some may know i quit this game because this ban and no explanation lead me to believe the devs/moderators have no intention of being 'fair', they just want this player out. thats not a type of ppl i like to have power in an environment im in. i questioned jules a bit earlier about it and he said he couldnt go into it because of the new patch. i hope he does have the decency to come up with the specific ban reason now, so i can be assured and play this game again. i think its only a fair request and that both roshkatul and me waited for it after the patch to be released so there would be more time for that No surprise, it was ignored again. Jules did answer other things, but left those messages untouched. So I decided to ask straight up. Here you see the question and his answer. Spoiler: Question if there would be an answer at all Mick yesterday 22:05 jules, could you at least say whether at some more calm period you (or anyone else from the staff) will give more details on the ban, so that its understandable? cos if your tactic is to not do that, you can better say so, so i wont waste the time waiting for that and just move on Jules yesterday 22:09 @Mick The mod team discussed, and we gave our reasons in the statement and don't really have more to comment or any plans to. I'm sorry if that's not the answer you were looking for. I responded one more time to this, with those comments. Spoiler: Final question on reason Mick yesterday 22:23 @Jules well all you said so far was 'that he crossed the line after the final warning' basically. which nobody understands. how did he cross the line? but if you are not willing to explain that, then dont bother answering it again. im not gonna push you if you clearly dont want to disclose it good luck with getting the patch right He decided to not respond anymore. Once again, I am not even questioning if the ban was right anymore. But how do you expect to be a fair developer/moderator when you don’t even let someone know why they are banned, not give them a chance to explain or even just simply understand. Saying he ‘continued the behavior’ without any proof or indication that this was true makes it impossible to check whether it was not a mistake or even worse, bad intention. Don’t you think it’s important to give the specifics of the ban, just to make sure you did not make a mistake or misinterpreted something, like we all sometimes do? Or would you rather take the risk of banning someone unjustified because you don’t want to explain? Like I said, I will be the first to defend moderators in their ruling, but you need to give the other side an opportunity, instead of keeping it all for yourself.